The war in Ukraine...

[czechmate]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kyivs-top-general-says-fighting-east-ukraine-worsens-troops-fall-back-2024-04-28/

thats your feckin Trump

 

[BrianV]

thats your feckin Trump

You don't think if Biden was serious in helping Ukraine he would have agreed to have money for the Southern border as a condition, it could only help his position, America have no intention in helping Ukraine to "win", they are content to keep things as they are & both sides to keep killing each other.
A Ukrainian win would cause all kinds of unforeseen trouble in Russia & you don't want that in an election year.

 

[br jones]

100% definite typo there...

Did i ? Bugger

 

[BrianV]

Injuring one civilian, not half as good as the Israelis at killing people it would seem!

Russians bombard Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia Oblast 346 times, injuring civilian​

IRYNA BALACHUK — MONDAY, 29 APRIL 2024, 07:29
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[Henarar]

Injuring one civilian, not half as good as the Israelis at killing people it would seem!

Well those yank weapons are much better than Russian ones

 

[its yourself]

Eventually Johnson & the US leadership will be held accountable but probably like Bush & Blair not in this lifetime.

What Killed the Peace Talks in Ukraine? - Antiwar.com

The accepted Western narrative is that, in February 2022, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine with the intent of conquering the entire - Ted Snider for Antiwar.com

original.antiwar.com

Another disinformation site.
It's not helping you.

 

[BrianV]

Another disinformation site.
It's not helping you.

Very much depends what you call disinformation, there's more than enough reliable quotes regarding Johnson's interference & the breakdown of talks, very much depends on your view as to what started this all & in whose interest it was it for it to continue.

 

[essex man]

Very much depends what you call disinformation, there's more than enough reliable quotes regarding Johnson's interference & the breakdown of talks, very much depends on your view as to what started this all & in whose interest it was it for it to continue.

Johnson's "interference" was to say , "if you roll over and hand them the donbas , they will be back for more"
According to the article.
You can see how ukrainians would think this reasonable/believable , given the invasion was effectively vlad coming "back for more"?

 

[BrianV]

Johnson's "interference" was to say , "if you roll over and hand them the donbas , they will be back for more"
According to the article.
You can see how ukrainians would think this reasonable/believable , given the invasion was effectively vlad coming "back for more"?

Where as now after the Ukraine has been blown to pieces & who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed we are right back to square one, Johnson has a lot to answer for!

 

[essex man]

Where as now after the Ukraine has been blown to pieces & who knows how many hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed we are right back to square one, Johnson has a lot to answer for!

Well, the russians are much further back than immediately post invasion.
The decision to fight can easily be seen as the right one for 2022.

 

[BrianV]

Well, the russians are much further back than immediately post invasion.
The decision to fight can easily be seen as the right one for 2022.

I would guess that will very much depend on the end result which I fear will be very much in line with what was discussed at those early negotiations. Whether the Ukrainian people will still feel it was all worth it if that's the case & who they blame for it all when it's over we will see.

 

[its yourself]

Very much depends what you call disinformation, there's more than enough reliable quotes regarding Johnson's interference & the breakdown of talks, very much depends on your view as to what started this all & in whose interest it was it for it to continue.

I'd start with everything you've posted so far Brian.

 

[Fendt65]

I would guess that will very much depend on the end result which I fear will be very much in line with what was discussed at those early negotiations. Whether the Ukrainian people will still feel it was all worth it if that's the case & who they blame for it all when it's over we will see.

Brian if they negotiated now or at the start do you honestly think putin would stick to it ?
do you trust putins word ?

 

[arcobob]

Brian if they negotiated now or at the start do you honestly think putin would stick to it ?
do you trust putins word ?

The Russians record for tearing up treaties absolutely stinks. They are not about to change now or any time soon.

 

[czechmate]

Brian if they negotiated now or at the start do you honestly think putin would stick to it ?
do you trust putins word ?

Brian hangs on Putins every word …

 

[Robbt]

Brian hangs on Putins every word …

And repeats them as well

 

[BrianV]

The Russians record for tearing up treaties absolutely stinks. They are not about to change now or any time soon.

Obviously you see a better way out of this mess then I do, I would guess they have learnt a very hard lesson with this war just like the Americas have learnt recently & neither are likely to be doing much more invading in the near future.

 

[BrianV]

There's a guy who should never be in the position he is in & causes nothing but trouble every time he opens his mouth..

Stoltenberg invites Zelenskyy to NATO summit amid membership uncertainties​

Ukraine’s place is in NATO & it will become member one day, but no invitation expected at July summit in Washington as consensus of all 32 allies needed.
BYMARIA TRIL
29/04/2024
2 MINUTE READ
stoltenberg-invites-zelenskyy-to-nato-summit-amid-membership-uncertainties

 

[Charlie Gill]

There's a guy who should never be in the position he is in & causes nothing but trouble every time he opens his mouth..

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Putin?

 

[BrianV]

The harsh reality is beginning to dawn on him.

Zelenskyy on timeliness of NATO's support for Ukraine: I don't see anything positive​

YEVHEN KIZILOV — MONDAY, 29 APRIL 2024, 17:14
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