- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Yes very. I was back drilling barley today and at one point I very nearly stopped as it was getting shitty on top but a couple hours wind and was lovely going again.
Beet 2024
- Thread starter carbonfibre farmer
- Start date
son of heir do you grind your beet seed beds to dust to suit drill .
Flatland guy
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
What are the tanks for, do you apply liquid fert near the seed( to cut fert usage) or is it for pre-em?
- Location
- West Suffolk
Not really, just hope for the best! Normally get good yields using it. Generally go over quick with Guttler front press and power harrow, then same with 3m roll behind to firm it up. Was getting a bit cloddy on the roddens, but I think there’s enough tilth for the drill.
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- Location
- West Suffolk
Used to be for band spraying while hoeing beet/onions. Probably manganese, haven’t used them since I’ve been here (30 years) We don’t use any fert on beet, granular or liquid.
alomy75
Member
No fert at all???? Or none at drilling?
Flatland guy
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Do you apply P & k etc elsewhere in rotation or do you have naturally high levels, or are having a year or two holiday with high fert prices?
- Location
- West Suffolk
Apply muck and fert for spuds, one year in 5. That is all.
- Location
- West Suffolk
None on beet at all. Have occasionally put a small amount of N on the heaviest bits.
What would be a typical base fert for beet?
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alomy75
Member
Wowsers!
Flatland guy
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Under RB209 sugar beet needs: assuming 90t/ha crop tops left in field.
72kg P/ha
153kg K/ha
N depends on following crop and rainfall.
But if you can get good crops without, it certainly leaves you with a bigger bonus from growing the crop.
- Location
- West Suffolk
Thanks, I think we will need to start doing something about it. Has been several years since I used to put beet fert on,probably 10-15 years I reckon.
No wonder you can afford new tractors!!! The amount I used to spend on Omex for beet would make your eyes water. I have only farmed one bit of black from memory it didn’t need much k but a bit of P. I know you don’t need much N on black land but I’d be doing a bit plus salt at least.
- Location
- West Suffolk
New tractors will never be bought from the profit of 19ha of beet! We did do 96t/ha this year, but lost a lot of sugar in the heap I think.
Maybe if we sort the fert side better we’ll get over the 100t/ha average.
But the index’s from samples haven’t called for fert.
Daniel
Member
- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Too much N limits yield I thought?
There you go then - if tests are all good and yields are spot on why worry
very jealous. You potato boys are spoilt, for us cereal growers if yields are good, beet will be our best crop this year
- Location
- West Suffolk
TBF we’ve been very lucky with the milling wheat sales these past couple of years too.There you go then - if tests are all good and yields are spot on why worry
You potato boys are spoilt, for us cereal growers if yields are good, beet will be our best crop this year
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
12 t/ha of 13% protein wheat grown with hundred weight of AN I suppose!!!!
alomy75
Member
Grows a lot of top and increases amino N that gives the factory hassle from an impurities point of view but unless you’re going to put it on full bore you should still get an ever diminishing yield response; provided everything else is adequate. Wouldn’t be cost effective though
- Location
- West Suffolk
No just over a couple of cwt, and yield like that in 2022 but more like 9.5t/ha normally.12 t/ha of 13% protein wheat grown with hundred weight of AN I suppose!!!!