Water pipe chlorination certificates

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Just in the process of getting mains water, already had to buy 500m of barrier pipe because Welsh Water said there is a danger of a tractor leaking diesel in the fields which could percolate 750mm deep to get through the water pipe. Now having trouble finding someone to issue a chlorination certificate, has anyone else had these issues?
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
Sorry, can't help with the ticket but I would have seriously questioned the need for barrier pipe unless you went through the yard.
· If the land for the proposed development is believed to be contaminated, or oil/fuel is stored at the premises, then all below ground water supply pipework and fittings used must be resistant to permeation by hydrocarbon contaminants, such as a compliant barrier pipe system conforming to BS 8588.

· Any existing pipework and plumbing to be retained and used, which is directly fed from the new mains connection, must be chlorinated and certified before any connection can take place. A copy of the chlorination certificate must be provided to Developer Services prior to connections being arranged.

It is the legal responsibility of the installer to ensure that the proposed works comply with The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 and our conditions of consent. The responsibility for on-going compliance and maintenance falls upon our customers, or those who are otherwise contractually obliged to maintain an installation which we supply. We, as your water supplier, have a duty to enforce this legislation on behalf of our Regulator.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
· If the land for the proposed development is believed to be contaminated, or oil/fuel is stored at the premises, then all below ground water supply pipework and fittings used must be resistant to permeation by hydrocarbon contaminants, such as a compliant barrier pipe system conforming to BS 8588.

· Any existing pipework and plumbing to be retained and used, which is directly fed from the new mains connection, must be chlorinated and certified before any connection can take place. A copy of the chlorination certificate must be provided to Developer Services prior to connections being arranged.

It is the legal responsibility of the installer to ensure that the proposed works comply with The Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999 and our conditions of consent. The responsibility for on-going compliance and maintenance falls upon our customers, or those who are otherwise contractually obliged to maintain an installation which we supply. We, as your water supplier, have a duty to enforce this legislation on behalf of our Regulator.
So a bit different than a tractor in a field then. I was under the impression that, in this area at least, it was more about potentially contaminated brownfield sites rather than fields.

Wonder how much of their own network is barrier pipe on the side of the road?
 
Had similar with Thames water ref barrier pipe. The difference in price was a hefty 6 figure sum. I managed to dispute the need by having soil samples taken, may be a bit late for you but if others read this it’s worth doing!
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
I have bought it now, and moled in, but they did say, because tractors were working in the fields there is a danger of contamination from leakage of diesel from the tractor.

I wonder if they are taking this line or oil/fuel is stored at the premises, to mean the fields that are part of the farm (so technically I suppose could be construed premises)
 
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It’s their bolt and braces approach, passing liability on to us, they dont care about the viability

There were some fairly heated email exchanges my end, I asked them why they hadn’t replaced all of their infrastructure that’s not as deep and in roads which has far more risk of contamination. They didn’t like that then told me I could do a soil test but they never pass! They then asked me to about 20 samples upto 1km away from the trench!!!

Ended up doing 5 along the route. Test results came back on, nothing they were worried about (about 20 tests) even registered on the test!
 

Daddy Pig

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Location
dorset
I have bought it now, and moled in, but they did say, because tractors were working in the fields there is a danger of contamination from leakage of diesel from the tractor.

I wonder if they are taking this line or oil/fuel is stored at the premises, to mean the fields that are part of the farm (so technically I suppose could be construed premises)
Did you manage to mole it in at 750mm ok ? Only asking as neighbours want to run a water pipe across one of my fields and say the cant mole it deep enough
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
doing my swede in, Welsh Water won't put in a temporary supply to allow chlorinatination, and the chlorination companies say they need a water supply to do the chlorination of the bungalow. I could use the bore hole, but have been told the lab tests cost £300 so a real bummer if the bore hole water is not up to scratch.
 

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