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[BrianV]

The sight of that dope Cameron swanning around the world promising this & that simply reminds people of Tory austerity & what the Tories have done to this country, biggest mistake Sunak has made bringing him back.

 

[4course]

Yes, but ironically Sunak might take comfort from that.

People who vote independent at a by-election might think twice when there's a government to form at a General Election.

However, he's getting all these signals that he needs to do things differently, and he isn't!

so what does he need to do differently ?

 

[BrianV]

so what does he need to do differently ?

For a start a complete reshuffle, Gove, Shapps, Cleverly, Cameron, Dowden all need to go with promotions & fresh faces quickly, the mistake was making Sunak Prime Minister & Hunt Chancellor they should have had their positions reversed.

 

[4course]

For a start a complete reshuffle, Gove, Shapps, Cleverly, Cameron, Dowden all need to go with promotions & fresh faces quickly, the mistake was making Sunak Prime Minister & Hunt Chancellor they should have had their positions reversed.

thats fine but not what I asked, mindst id be glad to see the back of gove

 

[yoki]

so what does he need to do differently ?

You'd need to ask a conservative voter, or better still a few thousand of them, what their priorities are and start from there.

 

[caveman]

Talk that Kant might lose London.
ULEZ not doing him any favours.

 

[BrianV]

Talk that Kant might lose London.
ULEZ not doing him any favours.

Majority of voters not traditional English & ULEZ might affect more voters from outside London area so can’t really see a Tory win there.

 

[caveman]

Majority of voters not traditional English & ULEZ might affect more voters from outside London area so can’t really see a Tory win there.

It's all about the turnout in different wards in greater London!
Remember. Commentators reckoned Bojos constituency would turn red but ULEZ fekked that idea.

 

[Vader]

Yes, the figures below would indicate that it is overwhelmingly down to Tory voter apathy, but still with a significant drift of Tory voters to Reform. An appalling night for the Tories, but nowhere near as good for Labour as it at first looks. And, of course, we all know full well that many people vote very differently in a By-election compared to how they will in a General Election.

In Wellingborough Labour got only 107 more votes last night than in the 2019 General Election; the Tories got 24869 fewer votes and the voter turnout was nearly 22 thousand votes less than in the General Election. Reform got 3919 votes last night...

In Kingswood Labour got 5316 fewer votes last night than in the 2019 General Election; the Tories got 19037 fewer votes and the voter turnout was over 24 thousand votes less than in the General Election. Reform got 2578 votes last night...

Labour are good at getting their core voters out.
Go round to 'remind' them to fill in the postal vote.
Make sure the old voters get to the polling station.
Etc

 

[JimAndy]

Yes, the figures below would indicate that it is overwhelmingly down to Tory voter apathy, but still with a significant drift of Tory voters to Reform. An appalling night for the Tories, but nowhere near as good for Labour as it at first looks. And, of course, we all know full well that many people vote very differently in a By-election compared to how they will in a General Election.

In Wellingborough Labour got only 107 more votes last night than in the 2019 General Election; the Tories got 24869 fewer votes and the voter turnout was nearly 22 thousand votes less than in the General Election. Reform got 3919 votes last night...

In Kingswood Labour got 5316 fewer votes last night than in the 2019 General Election; the Tories got 19037 fewer votes and the voter turnout was over 24 thousand votes less than in the General Election. Reform got 2578 votes last night...

personally i wouldn't call 3919 and 2578 significant, when you count that the torys losed voted in the ten's of thousand's

 

[S.Jamieson]

Talk that Kant might lose London.
ULEZ not doing him any favours.

Don't think he has lost it.

 

[BrianV]

It's all about the turnout in different wards in greater London!
Remember. Commentators reckoned Bojos constituency would turn red but ULEZ fekked that idea.

Labour's Sadiq Khan has won a third term as London mayor
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[beardface]

personally i wouldn't call 3919 and 2578 significant, when you count that the torys losed voted in the ten's of thousand's

It's the lack of voter turnout in relation to vote share that he's getting at. Basically if we had say a historic voter turnout at the next election then Starmer may struggle to get a majority.

 

[capfits]

It's the lack of voter turnout in relation to vote share that he's getting at. Basically if we had say a historic voter turnout at the next election then Starmer may struggle to get a majority.

You have lost me.
Historic in what sense? High?low?
All the matter is who gets the highest number of votes in any given constituency.

 

[JP1]

Talk that Kant might lose London.
ULEZ not doing him any favours.

That talk wasn't right. Feel more sorry for the West Midlands mayor losing , should have hidden his Conservative tag like Teesside mayor did

 

[neilo]

That talk wasn't right. Feel more sorry for the West Midlands mayor losing , should have hidden his Conservative tag like Teesside mayor did

There was talk previously that Reform were going to do for him, but they got around the same number of votes as the Greens in the end. It was just a two horse race, as ever.
Hopefully the electorate have boxed UKIP Reform up with the same ‘nut jobs’ label now.

 

[JP1]

There was talk previously that Reform were going to do for him, but they got around the same number of votes as the Greens in the end. It was just a two horse race, as ever.
Hopefully the electorate have boxed UKIP Reform up with the same ‘nut jobs’ label now.

Oh yeah, they did get 2 councillors voted in