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<blockquote data-quote="Dave645" data-source="post: 9274861" data-attributes="member: 55822"><p>ok the wording for all this stuff is tricky. they have added stuff since i last read it. so, I agree baling would seem to be an option depending on how area plays out in there wording, removing was only as they state remove if it's going to be a problem to the flowering parts of the mix.</p><p></p><p>ok some quotes from guidance.</p><p></p><p>You must not do the following on the area of legume fallow once it’s established:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">cut it, except to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds</li> </ul><p></p><h4>Maintaining established areas</h4><p>Once the area is established, you need to maintain it by managing it in a way that could reasonably be expected to achieve this action’s aim (described above).</p><p></p><p>NUM3 allows you to cut the area to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds.</p><p></p><p>During the first spring and summer after sowing, you can:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">start cutting as soon as blackgrass starts to produce seed heads</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">do follow up cuts as necessary to remove further seed heads</li> </ul><p>During the second year after sowing, you can control blackgrass by cutting between March and mid- June-May and then leave the area uncut for a period of at least around 5 weeks until early August. This will help to:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">allow plants to flower for as long as possible</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">provide pollen and nectar for insects such as bees, butterflies, hoverflies and moths</li> </ul><p>Check the area for signs of nesting birds before you cut it – birds, nests and eggs are protected by law, so if you see signs of nesting birds, delay cutting until the birds fledge.</p><p></p><p>Remove the cut vegetation, where possible, to help reduce the risk of it smothering the flower species and limit weeds – if it’s impractical to do this, you can finely chop them to spread them as thinly as possible.</p><p></p><p>end quote.</p><p></p><p>so, the question is what evidence will they want, and will there be anything to bale if you're cutting it so often at the point seed heads are appearing.</p><p>and what do they mean by "area"?</p><p>the area effected by the grass problem, or the full field? which is the only way you could be baling it?</p><p></p><p>my interpretation of area is the area that needs to be controlled just like we would do in a wheat crop.</p><p>sure if 90% of the field has the problem then you could argue the best solution is cutting it all, but will that be the case?</p><p></p><p>if it's not, can you cut it all and be inside the guidance? as baling will be tricky on spot areas of control. topping like we do in wheat seems like the best way to meet the guidance and avoid having to remove the residue. note they said remove residue rather than bale it. this option is not intended to be for grazing or fodder, so again while this is a grey area in the wording, i don't think they intended for farmers to be cutting the full field to control patches of grass weeds, but I maybe wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave645, post: 9274861, member: 55822"] ok the wording for all this stuff is tricky. they have added stuff since i last read it. so, I agree baling would seem to be an option depending on how area plays out in there wording, removing was only as they state remove if it's going to be a problem to the flowering parts of the mix. ok some quotes from guidance. You must not do the following on the area of legume fallow once it’s established: [LIST] [*]cut it, except to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds [/LIST] [HEADING=3]Maintaining established areas[/HEADING] Once the area is established, you need to maintain it by managing it in a way that could reasonably be expected to achieve this action’s aim (described above). NUM3 allows you to cut the area to prevent blackgrass from setting seed or to control other annual grass weeds. During the first spring and summer after sowing, you can: [LIST] [*]start cutting as soon as blackgrass starts to produce seed heads [*]do follow up cuts as necessary to remove further seed heads [/LIST] During the second year after sowing, you can control blackgrass by cutting between March and mid- June-May and then leave the area uncut for a period of at least around 5 weeks until early August. This will help to: [LIST] [*]allow plants to flower for as long as possible [*]provide pollen and nectar for insects such as bees, butterflies, hoverflies and moths [/LIST] Check the area for signs of nesting birds before you cut it – birds, nests and eggs are protected by law, so if you see signs of nesting birds, delay cutting until the birds fledge. Remove the cut vegetation, where possible, to help reduce the risk of it smothering the flower species and limit weeds – if it’s impractical to do this, you can finely chop them to spread them as thinly as possible. end quote. so, the question is what evidence will they want, and will there be anything to bale if you're cutting it so often at the point seed heads are appearing. and what do they mean by "area"? the area effected by the grass problem, or the full field? which is the only way you could be baling it? my interpretation of area is the area that needs to be controlled just like we would do in a wheat crop. sure if 90% of the field has the problem then you could argue the best solution is cutting it all, but will that be the case? if it's not, can you cut it all and be inside the guidance? as baling will be tricky on spot areas of control. topping like we do in wheat seems like the best way to meet the guidance and avoid having to remove the residue. note they said remove residue rather than bale it. this option is not intended to be for grazing or fodder, so again while this is a grey area in the wording, i don't think they intended for farmers to be cutting the full field to control patches of grass weeds, but I maybe wrong. [/QUOTE]
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