Bbc news now ,the wheat shortage

delilah

Member
The most expensive bit of a loaf of bread is the energy needed to bake it.

Yes, that's where the cost is, the energy ie the fossil fuel, though tbf the transportation is greater than the baking:

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ransportation_A_case_study_of_bread_in_the_UK

Re-distributed manufacturing (RDM) is of high economic and political interest and is associated with rapid technological, environmental, political, regulatory and social changes in the UK. RDM of food raises opportunities and questions around the local nexus of food, energy and water. Considering these together can provide opportunities for rationalising resource utilisation, production, and consumption while contributing to shared prosperity between business, society and natural ecosystems. This paper concentrates on the energy–food aspects of the nexus for RDM by focusing on the case study of bread manufacturing and transportation in the UK. A detailed analysis of the energy requirements and environmental impacts of centralised bread production and transportation compared with localised options for re-distributed bread manufacturing is undertaken. This is achieved by building on existing literature and developing a series of bread-energy system configurations to model energy usage and green-house gas (GHG) emissions at the large (centralised), medium and small scales. Results from the analysis indicate that energy use and emissions can in some instances increase as a result of losing economies of scale through downscaling bread manufacturing. However, the analysis shows that overall energy use and emissions along the bread supply chain are dominated by transportation stages. Thus, RDM opens up new opportunities for reductions in overall energy consumption and emissions, for example by using low carbon vehicles for the transportation of bread and flour at the medium and small scales. Major energy use and emission reductions could also be achieved by reducing car usage if more consumers buy in local bakeries. The configurations also consider energy use for various bread wastage conditions. Assuming that buying more frequently in local bakeries only the bread that is consumed helps avoiding bread wastage, this would lead to reduced bread purchasing and bread manufacturing, which translates to reductions in energy use and emissions in the modelled configurations. Existing data demonstrate that there is a wide diversity across different manufacturing sites in the energy use and associated emissions per loaf of bread produced. The study highlights the opportunities for improvement in the sector if plant move towards the best available manufacturing technologies and practices, and this may be more practical for smaller scale operations. Two hypothetical bread production scenarios show that a greater share of the UK’s bread being produced locally could result in a reduction in overall energy consumption and emissions.


Which is why any news story that wants to talk about the price of a loaf should be focusing on today's centralized food system , not the farmer.
 

bluebell

Member
Isnt that like how all agricultural commodities have gone, 8 p is the price of the wheat in a loaf of bread? the sheeps fleece? the potato, etc etc etc, price of a pint of beer in 1960 to a pint of milk in 1960, just to see, any one know? Then how much is a pint of beer today and a pint of milk? Answers please?
 

Hilly

Member
OMG!
What a load of Rubbish!
So the wheat that has been harvested so far this year is not good enough quality.
Meaning they are having to import it from Germany and Canada.
Hopefully regenerative farming will get yields to recover.

FFS!
How many times do we see something on the Beeb we actually know something about and it is is not only wrong, but the truth is completely the reverse?
Ive said this for years the BBC just churn out utter garbage ! Propergander for pre school idiots its what they produce .
 

Hilly

Member
Yes, it was so obviously typical BBC time wasting Climate change/time filler sh!te stirring.
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Convincing folk planting the one in red with trees is going to save the world 😂
 

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
How much wheat in money is in a loaf of bread? I bet the packaging costs more? So my point is even if the wheat doubled in price, the amount of wheat that makes up the total retail price after everyone has had their cut is a fraction? More scaremongering same as potato cost of chrisps is marginal\\\\\\\\/
About 10p wheat in a loaf for every £100/T.. based on bread inflation in the past ten years milling wheat must be about £700/t now…🤷‍♂️
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
What people can’t seem to understand is that climate change is already reducing yields and that rather than reduce them further by all sorts of greening rubbish and regulations we should be endeavouring to maintain or increase production, maybe even reopen intervention type stores to carry us through a failed harvest and smooth out supply issues. People laugh at this but it’s ironic that through times of plenty we had such stores but now when things are more precarious we have next to nothing in reserve.
maybe it's because we are no longer a christian country, and know about the bible

Genesis 41:34-36: - Let Pharaoh proceed to appoint overseers over the land and take one-fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt during the seven plentiful years. And let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming and store up grain under the authority of Pharaoh for food in the cities, and let them keep it. That food shall be a reserve for the land against the seven years of famine that are to occur in the land of Egypt, so that the land may not perish through the famine.
 

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